So theraṃ laddhapiṇḍapātaṃ aññataraṃ okāsaṃ gacchantaṃ disvā nisīditukāmatañcassa ñatvā attano paribbājakapīṭhakaṃ paññāpetvā adāsi. Bhattakiccapariyosānepissa attano kuṇḍikāya udakaṃ adāsi.

Evaṃ ācariyavattaṃ katvā katabhattakiccena therena saddhiṃ madhurapaṭisaṇṭhāraṃ katvā "vippasannāni kho te āvuso indriyāni, parisuddho chavivaṇṇo pariyodāto, kaṃsi tvaṃ āvuso uddissa pabbajito, ko vā te satthā, kassa vā tvaṃ dhammaṃ rocesī"ti pucchi. Thero "atthāvuso mahāsamaṇo sakyaputto sakyakulā pabbajito, tāhaṃ bhagavantaṃ uddissa pabbajito, so ca me bhagavā satthā, tassa cāhaṃ bhagavato dhammaṃ rocemī"ti āha. Atha naṃ "kiṃvādī panāyasmato satthā kimakkhāyī"ti pucchi. Thero cintesi "ime paribbājakā nāma sāsanassa paṭipakkhabhūtā, imassa sāsane gambhīrataṃ dassessāmī"ti. Attano navakabhāvaṃ dassento āha "ahaṃ kho āvuso navo acirapabbajito, adhunāgato imaṃ dhammavinayaṃ, na tāvāhaṃ sakkomi vitthārena dhammaṃ desetun"ti. Paribbājako "ahaṃ upatisso nāma, tvaṃ yathāsattiyā appaṃ vā bahuṃ vā vada, etaṃ nayasatena nayasahassena paṭivijjhituṃ mayhaṃ bhāro"ti cintetvā āha:-

"appaṃ vā bahuṃ vā bhāsassu atthaṃyeva me brūhi

attheneva me attho kiṃ kāhasi byañjanaṃ bahun"ti.