Kusītopi upaṭṭhākamajjhe nisinno "upāsakā tumhehi ukkāpāto diṭṭho"ti vadati. "na passāma bhante, kāya velāya ahosī"ti ca puṭṭho "amhākaṃ caṅkamanavelāyā"ti vatvā "bhūmicalanasaddaṃ assutthā"ti pucchati. "na suṇāma bhante, kāya velāyā"ti puṭṭho "majjhimayāme amhākaṃ ālambanaphalakaṃ apassāya ṭhitakāle"ti vatvā "mahāobhāso ahosi, so vo diṭṭho"ti pucchati. "kāya velāya bhante"ti ca vutte "mayhaṃ caṅkamamhā otaraṇakāle"ti vadati. Manussā "amhākaṃ thero tīsupi yāmesu caṅkameyeva hoti, natthi ayyena sadiso āraddhaviriyo"ti pasannā sakkāraṃ karonti.
Muṭṭhassatīpi upaṭṭhākamajjhe nisinno "mayā asukakāle nāma dīghanikāyo uggahito, asukakāle majjhimo, saṃyutto, aṅguttarako. Antarantarā olokanaṃ nāma natthi, icchiticchitaṭṭhāne mukhāruḷhāva tanti āgacchati, ime panaññe bhikkhū eḷakā viya mukhaṃ phandāpentā viharantī"ti vadati. Manussā "natthi ayyena sadiso upaṭṭhitassatī"ti pasannā sakkāraṃ karonti.
Asamāhitopi upaṭṭhākānaṃ sammukhe aṭṭhakathācariye pañhaṃ pucchati, "kasiṇaṃ nāma kathaṃ bhāventi, kittakena nimittaṃ uppannaṃ nāma hoti, kittakena upacāro, kittakena appanā, paṭhamajjhānassa katī aṅgāni, dutiyassa tatiyassa
Tehi attano uggahānurūpena kathitakāle hasitaṃ katvā "kiṃ āvuso evaṃ na hosī"ti vutte "vaṭṭati bhante"ti attano samāpattilābhitaṃ sūceti. Manussā "samāpattilābhī ayyo"ti pasannā sakkāraṃ karonti.